It's Cheaper to Demolish "Cottage in the Woods"
Saving the "Cottage in the Woods" might cost three times as much as demolishing it, according to Forks Township estimates.
While a committee has formed to save "The Cottage in the Woods," estimates by Forks Township officials indicate the cost of saving it might be three times as much as the cost of demolishing it.
According to estimates included in the township's five-year parks and recreation plan, it would cost $23,600 to make the repairs necessary for the cottage to be to be used by groups such as the township's Art and Historical societies.
But officials have determined that demolishing the structure at 700 Zucksville Road could cost between $8,000 and $9,500.
That would explain why township officials aren't in any rush to make a decision, especially since many in the township have rallied around saving the cottage.
In a recent Palmer/Forks Patch.com poll, 62 of 66 voters said the cottage should be spared from the wrecking ball and turned over to the organizations for use.
A Save the Cottage committee was recently formed in hopes of raising funds to pay for the repairs and refurbishing of the cottage.
The cottage cost estimates:
- Roof Repairs -- $2,400
- Electrical Improvements -- $7,200
- Window Replacement -- $5,000
- Gutters -- $2,000
- Masonry Work -- $3,800
- Painting -- $2,700
- Floor joists/support -- $500
Rob Leiser
9:01 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
What Forks Township Supervisors intentionally left out of the Demolition Estimates was the Cost to construct the planned Parking Lot. Number one is removing 6 acres of dense Woods. Remove and properly dispose of all the Tree Stumps. Remove hundreds of Truck Loads of Top Soil and replace it with a base suitable to build a Parking Lot on top of, and the Construction of the Parking Lot.
If I am correct and Zucksville Rd is a State Road here is where the Parking Lot Project grinds to a halt. PennDOT Traffic Studies, Entrance and Storm Water Permits will be needed.
Any Bog Turtles in that Woods?
What will be the Total Cost of the Project? $100,000.00 or more.
ellie reismeier
2:33 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
This dense Old Growth Forest is the only one like it on municipal property. Home to many species. Environment Impact Study should be top on the list...before demolition is discussed!
Jim English
11:46 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
The other element missing is the "forever" annual costs to just sustain a functioning property: lights, heat, etc. What is this $ figure? The bigger questions are why does the Township own two properties that they have no real use for, what has this cost the taxpayers to date, and who decided to buy these properties in the first place?
Rob Leiser
1:43 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Jim; These Properties were purchased for access and Parking for a landlocked strip of land that is going to be Ball Fields for the Private "Forks Township Youth Sports". At last count Forks Township spent $40,000.00 in a failed attempt to grade these Ball Fields. If I am correct this all goes back to Supervisor Donald Miller in 2002.
Rob Leiser
1:52 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Jim; Forks Township has a lot of these energy costs that most Residents don't realize. Yes. Both Houses should be sold and returned to the Tax Rolls but that will never happen.
Carolyn
12:00 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
How about a fund raiser? If 62 people were in favor of rehabing the structure in an unofficial Patch poll, I bet there are a lot of long-time Forks residents who would pitch in to fund the renovations. How about it Forks Township? I'll start with $100. If 23 people join me, we've got it done!
Rob Leiser
1:44 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Carolyn; I am in for for $100.00
Kent E. Quain
2:17 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Carolyn I'll give $100.00 and 5 hours a week..another great way to help is donate time, money is always nice though:-)
ellie reismeier
2:29 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Carolyn....please contact us at forksart@yahoo.com. We'd love to communicate with YOU!
Jim English
9:10 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
I'm confused: 23 x $100 = $2,300. I thought it was going to take $23,600 to just make the basic repairs?
Dino Ciliberti
12:17 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Wow, great comments guys!
Kent E. Quain
2:15 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
That is what the "commitee" is for we are going to solicit corporate/local sponsors, volunteers, donations from building supply, local pros, retired tradesmen/women, landscapers, arborists and maybe even an apiarist.
I think with enough support this can be done for much less than even the demolition.
The 6 acre wood in the back would make a great arboretum with educational hiking trails....
Anyone interesed should contact Forks Area Arts Society via the email on their website.
Kent E. Quain
2:22 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
The committee will be made-up of an all volunteer group, using each individuals strengths to at least get this started before ..fall?? Like I said in an earlier post go to Forks Area Arts Society and send an email if interested in donating time/money.
Dino Ciliberti
3:06 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
At this stage, it would be a public relations nightmare if the supervisors touched this house!
ellie reismeier
2:26 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
ABSOLUTELY A NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jim English
9:11 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
There is a DPW building that is grossly overbudget...why was no one this upset over that?
ellie reismeier
2:25 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Anyone interested in helping "Save the Cottage in the Woods" is asked to send an e-mail to forksart@yahoo.com! Thanks for the exposure, Dino! Keep it coming!
(facebook pages: "Save the Cottage in the Woods" as well as "Forks Area Art Society"
We need all the support we can get right now, people! This is Township property....and WE ARE THE TOWNSHIP!!!!!!!!! Let's give our youth the gift of art, history, culture and a respect for nature!
Rob Leiser
9:32 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
To be a “Public Relations Nightmare” the Supervisors need to care and they don’t. When was the last time that a Forks Township Supervisor won a second term? Saving the “Cottage in the Woods” will totally upset the recently approved 5 year Recreation Plan.
From my understanding the needed Recreation Center Parking Lot and entrance was originally planned for the Dead End on Sycamore. Supervisors; it’s time to revive that Plan.
Look at the total project. This plan to build a few Tee Ball Fields for FTYS has been a Fiasco since it started in 2002. Just ask the Residents of College Park. So far it has cost Taxpayers the removal of 2 Houses from the Tax Rolls, grabbing 6 acres of land from the Dewalt Estate, and a few expensive failed attempts to level the land for the Ball Fields. Now we are going to tear down a house and rip up 6 acres of Woods. What will be the Total Cost to build a couple of Tee Ball Fields? How much has been spent already, and what kind of lesson are the Supervisors, Recreation Board, and FTYS teaching the Children?
It’s time for the Supervisors and the Recreation Board to explain what are they planning and what will it cost. Has anyone even seen the plans for this project?
ellie reismeier
12:33 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Their "5 yr. rec plan"....that was BEFORE the word demolition was being used....the Forks Area Art Society has been asking respectively for over 2 yrs. to use the cottage!
Now we are asking to allow us to raise the funds to do the repairs. Then rent it back to us at a nominal fee.
ellie reismeier
12:29 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
SPORTS, SPORTS & MORE SPORTS! What about the arts, culture, history and teaching our youth to respect nature and learning to live in harmony with it? Leveling all that once was in the name of progress....only to build more sporting venues....this is NOT what the voters want! Time to start listening to the people, the ones that got our Supers into office in the first place.
ellie reismeier
12:41 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
The original "settlers" of Forks moved out this way to get away from the traditional suburbs....now all the farms are disappearing along with all the unique landmarks & structures. The grassroots committee attempting to "Save the Cottage" is a last ditch attempt to preserve the old growth forest as well as the cottage and turn it into a magnificent destination for all town residents! This should be the voters choice...not a handful of elected officials pushing their own agendas!
ellie reismeier
12:55 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
And.....Jim!!!!!!! As far as the DPW bldg being grossly over budget.....Lambs being lead to the slaughter. We are so busy with what's right in front of our noses...seems we've lost our peripheral vision. How does any of this get by the very people that put the decision makers in office? Someone needs to be accountable! And the taxpayers and voters should start with looking at themselves. WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED, PEOPLE!
Carol Kuhn
12:13 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
once it's gone, you can't bring it back..... and how about some balance --- there are other worth while things than sports to focus on!
Rob Leiser
3:10 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Carol if you mention the hundreds of Thousands that are spent on Youth Sports you are branded as one who hates Children.
I am sorry to see that comments on this subject has gone quiet