Poll: Palmer/Forks Reacts to Voter ID Decision
Will decision to uphold Voter ID law stick? Both sides had said they would appeal this ruling.
The Commonwealth Court ruled Wednesday morning not to stop Pennsylvania's controversial new voter identification law from going into effect.
Judge Robert Simpson, of Nazareth will not grant an injunction that would have halted the law requiring each voter to show a valid photo ID.
The loser in the decision -- the Amercan Civil Liberty Union's Witold J. Walczak -- told The Washington Post that the case isn't over. “It’s why they make appeals courts.”
Opponents are expected to file an appeal within a day or two to the state Supreme Court as the Nov. 6 presidential election fast approaches, according to the Associated Press.
"I try to at these issues in an objective manner using facts," Forks Township Supervisor David Billings said. "In my opinion, the new voter ID law will hurt general election turnout, as people without ID's struggle to get proper ID's within the next 90 days."
Billings said he believed the challenge is whether "the million or so voters without ID's can find a way to obtain the proper identification."
"In the long term, this will become a non-issue with voters," he said.
Brian Lokitis, a director on the Business and Commerce Association of Forks Township, said he supports the legislation.
"Voting is a serious issue and should be taken seriously," Lokitis said. "Obtaining an acceptable form of ID is not as difficult as the opponents to the law would make it out to be. If the law required only a valid driver’s license, I may have more of an issue, but an acceptable form of ID could be a military card, business ID, pass port, food stamp ID, ID obtained from social security… almost anything with a picture and photo obtained from a legitimate source. If you have a birth certificate, you can get a legitimate photo ID easily enough."
"I don’t see how money is an obstacle to obtain a photo ID, since there are free or low-cost alternatives. The only obstacle is effort," Lokitis continued. "If you truly want to vote and don’t have an ID now (which in today’s day and age seems almost impossible after 911… can’t do anything without valid identification), you will make a serious effort to obtain one. The right to vote and the accuracy of a vote should not be taken lightly."
State Sen. Bob Mensch, a Republican who represents the 24th District which includes Easton, Palmer and Forks townships, Wilson and West Easton, reacted:
“I really expected that it would be upheld,” Mensch said. “The other side was trying to use the courts to legislate.”
He said opponents of the law are offering supposition about inconveniences some voters may face but for those who can’t get to the polls – such as senior citizens who don’t drive – they can vote by absentee ballot.
“From everything I’ve seen from the polls and data more than 75 percent of the people in the state approve of Voter ID, he said. "Voter ID will simplify all the issues, I really believe that. Particularly when we use ID for so many other things in our lives.”
The challenge to the law was brought by voter advocacy groups, including the ACLU and the NAACP.
Pennsylvania passed a law in March requiring all registered voters to show a valid and “acceptable” photo ID before voting. This is one of the strictest voter ID laws in the nation.
Opponents of the law say it disproportionately targets the elderly as well as the poor and minorities, who typically vote Democrat. Furthermore, critics say that the burden of obtaining an acceptable ID for these people would keep them from voting.They add that preventing voter fraud (the supposed purpose of the law) is not a serious concern.
Thirty states have some sort of Voter ID law, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Of those, 19 do not require a photo, six require a photo and five, including Pennsylvania, have strict photo requirements.
Alan Jennings, executive director of the Community Action Committee of the Lehigh Valley, said the law is “clearly a deliberate effort to disempower certain voters on behalf of other voters.”
Jennings cited Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai’s declaration at a GOP State Committee meeting in which Turzai said: “Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania – done.”
“This is a blantant effort as sinister as it is cynical to take away the most fundamental right we have as Americans,” Jennings said. “Unless the judge doesn’t understand the day-to-day travails of average people, it’s unimaginable that he could have come to that decision.”
Jennings said his organization works with people who don’t own cars and don’t have the kinds of jobs they can just leave to go “deal with government bureaucracy” to get an official voter ID.
“It’s the kind of thing that has led so many people to give up their faith in our democracy or the notion that they have any say in their government,” he said.
John Faulstick, who lives in Palmer Township but is on the board of the Wilson Borough Republican Club said it’s not difficult to get the state issued identification voters can use.
“Every responsible adults should have some form of identification on them,” Faulstick said. “Most senior citizens are responsible enough to have ID.I know my mother is 75 years old, she doesn’t drive and she has a state issued ID.”
Faulstick said an exception should be made for those people who are voting by absentee ballot because they are elderly, sick or disabled.
“I am extremely disappointed in the judge's decision,” said Walt Garvin, the chairman of the Northampton County Democratic Party. “There are many reason for this disappointment, the most critical of them being the impact that this ruling will have on Election Day: There will be longer lines than ever at the polls!”
“It was not uncommon to have lines two and three hours long during the past three presidential election cycles,” said Garvin, Bethlehem Township, who is also the former chairman of the Northampton County Election Board.
“The practical impact of this legislation will double and triple those times. Many voters may simply walk away on Election Day,” he said.
“Shame on the Republicans in Harrisburg for this despicable attempt to frustrate the Pennsylvania electorate.”
Garvin said the party has obtained a database containing the names of 18,000 registered Northampton County voters who do not have driver’s licenses and are trying to reach out to them to educate and help them get the identification they will need to vote.
Garvin also said he is working with senior centers in the region to help them issue their own photo identification cards, which can be considered valid identification at the polls.
“Even if every voter who currently does not have the required PA photo ID manages to get one (which they won't), the request and verification of these ID's at the polls will add 30 seconds to one-and-one-half (1 1/2) minutes to each voter transaction,” said Garvin, who is also the former chairman of the Northampton County Election Board.
WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.
11:37 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Did the judge say why he decided to do what he did?
Kim Chamberlain Stone
8:33 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I agree that exceptions should be made for those voting by absentee ballot because they are in the military or are disabled or elderly. However, if someone is able to find transportation to get to the polls, then I don't see how requiring a valid, photo ID would be a problem. if they can make the effort to get to the polls and are passionate enough about their right to vote, they will find a way to get a valid ID. As was said in the article, there are numerous ways to obtain a photo ID, some being very low cost or even free. Any argument to the contrary is just an excuse to rouse anger. And this comment is coming from an "average person" who does understand the daily lives of working, busy, and even elderly people.
WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.
11:00 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
After this decision by the Judge, I don't see how Obama and the rest of the Democratic candidates could ever expect to get elected, not only in Pennsylvania but the entire country where many States have the same voter suppression laws directed mainly to Democratic leaning constituents...Nice job, but would this be a legitimate government if leaders are chosen in very undemocratic process?..I suspect even the U.S. Supreme Court won't allow this shenanigans.
John Thomas
11:12 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
That's too bad for Obama who was counting on Illegals and fradulent voters for 20% of his support.
WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.
11:29 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
It's over for Obama and company...They are no match to these dealmakers...As for massive fraudulence, that's never been proven to exist...It's all made up by smart alecks...If Romney and co. are elected, they won't be as legitimate as "foreign-born" (sic) Obama because of voter suppression.
John Thomas
11:37 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
So it's Shenanigans to have everyone to show ID to make sure they are who they claim to be, make sure they are not voting illegally or fraudulently? What are they trying to hide? What are you trying to hide? You are often required to show ID when you pay with a credit card or check, when you go to a doctors visit, when you show up to take your SAT’s, When making a bank transaction, when ordering a beer, when purchasing cigarettes, If all of these everyday things are ok to require ID…why isn’t it acceptable to show ID when doing something as important as voting. The only reason someone who is trying to hide who they are and/or what they are doing. Who would be against this is someone who is trying to get away with something illegal or corrupt, or are benefiting from others who are…I’m guessing you fit into that category. The people who benefit from fraudulent votes are people who are the “takers”…the people in this country who are sucking the resources from this country without also adding to them. The people sitting on the cart while the rest of us pull it along. Well, the fat slugs sitting on the cart are getting way too heavy for the fewer and fewer pullers to continue pulling. It’s about time we dumped the fat from the cart.
WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.
12:34 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Voter ID was was introduced on the premise of fraud...Couldn't they (dealmakers) have thought of some other excuse because this is utterly bogus...We heard our honorable State Congressman who blatantly said "Done! Romney takes Pennsylvania" after this law was imposed...Admit it...It is a glaring voter suppression move by the Republican Party.
John Thomas
1:08 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
So what you are saying is that voter ID was introduced to stop Fraud...I'd agree.
It is also an effort to suppress the votes of people who would otherwise vote illegally...agree again.
And you also imply that all of the illegal’s and people who cast fraudulent votes are all Democrats...I'm not sure I'd agree that "All"...but if you put them in the category of people that are fraudulently sucking the resources off the backs of other hard-working Americans, and to do anything possible (no matter how illegal or immoral) to make sure a Democrat is elected into office that will continue their unbroken flow of entitlements that were meant for temporary assistance for otherwise productive Americans…then I might actually agree with you on that
DOCurmudgeon
4:16 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I laughed out loud when I saw that one needed a photo ID to get into Michele Obama's book signing. Apparently you need one to get her autograph, but don't need one to vote for her husband.
You need to be alive to get her autograph, but you need not be alive to vote.
WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.
6:13 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
With millions of voters disenfranchised on this November election because of ID requirements, Obama does not have a prayer...These voters tend to lean Democratic.
John Thomas
9:15 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
A Judicial Watch investigation has found that the leftwing organization called the Voter Participation Center, who claims to be targeting what it describes as underrepresented voting blocs has been trying to register dead people, infants, felons and even dogs and cats to vote.
After registering these “people”, Supporters go to the poles and claim to be this person (Fluffy the Cat) and cast a vote for their Democratic candidate. And nobody questions them because…you guessed it…No ID Required.
WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.
10:05 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
If you believe that, Al Sharpton has a bridge to sell...It's over for Obama, I tell you so stop worrying about voter fraud...It's done deal like your Republican State Congressman said, "Romney takes Pennsylvania after this fraudulent voter ID law."
John Thomas
10:12 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
typical ignorant liberal fool....when confronted with FACTS. You put your hands over your eyes and ears and start chanting, NANANANNANANANNANANA.
John Thomas
10:18 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
Here, pull your head out of the ground and face some FACTS.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/02/millions-of-voter-records-flawed-nearly-2-mil-dead-registered/
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/07/jw-exposes-voter-participation-center-scandal/
WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.
11:10 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
So we are into name calling now, just because I disagree with your outrageous ideas?..I will never cal you ignorant or a fool because I respect your freedom of speech but you appear to be incapable of discussing issues in a sane manner...I do not participate in debating with people who get unhinged when they disagree with their opinions...So I will end it here...OBAMA LOSES FROM UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD...Celebrate your success.
John Thomas
12:13 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012
I am not stating opinion…That’s your problem...you completely ignore the facts. You value rhetoric and rumors and partisan manipulation and ignore facts. These articles don’t expressing my opinion but are nonbiased reports of what is actually happening. You are not debating. you won’t even address the FACT that these liberal organizations are registering Millions upon Millions of illegal’s, children, dead people and animals all with the idea of sending multiple people to multiple poles to cast votes in their favor. And you choose to call making people just prove they are who they say they are…something that may prevent or at least reduce the number of fraudulent votes? And THAT is what you call, creating “uneven playing field”?
Reality…a refreshing concept….embrace it.